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Re: Stress accent?
At 13:28 6/4/98, Padraic Brown wrote:
>> We have it on the authority of the home page that these "-r"s
>> aren't pronounced in Modern Brithenig. So, the question before
>> the house is, is it:
>> CANTARE > [kan 'tar] > [k@n 'ta]
>> CANTARE > [kan 'tar] > ['kan t@r] > ['kan t@]
>> I find the second sequence phonetically more plausible.
>I tend to agree with that. If the accent stays where it was in Latin (cf.
>Kernu), then I think the -r would be difficult to expell. It would be
>easier so to do without the accent.
The final -R has entirely disappeared in the infinitive ending -ER in
French even though the ending still bears the stress. Also the final -R
has completely disappeared both in writing & pronunciation from _all_ the
Romanian infinitive endings, even tho the stress is still on the final
The loss of final -R after -e- and -a- is not at all unusual. In the
spoken German of south Germany & Austria it's not uncommon for such an R to
disappear after low vowels such as /a/, /E/ and /O/. The complete loss
after -i- would be less likely but could certainly have come about through
analogy with /ar/ --> /a/ and /Er/ --> /E/.
With respect, I feel both John & Padraic are looking at this through
English eyes and not Romance ones. From the actual examples of French &
Romanian, I can see nothing at all unplausible or unlikely in:
CANTARE --> /kan'tar/ --> /kan'ta/
Written in Net English Humor not necessarily marked
Sorry for delayed response.
I haven't been able to get through to my ISP since
6th April :=(