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Re: John Cowan and Scott Horne on Brithenig
On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, John Cowan wrote:
> This then led to a second exchange (SH - JC - SH2), as follows.
> Note that in SH paragraphs Scott doesn't know about Brithenig,
> whereas in SH2 paragraphs he does.
> SH: Hmmm, now I'm less inclined to suppose that it's a Romance
> language; it looks vaguely Celtic. But you've confirmed that
> it's Romance.
> JC: Exactly so. It is a hypothetical reconstruction (by Andrew Smith
> <email@example.com>) of the Romance language that could have
> come into being if Latin had been preserved in Britain, rather than
> dying out in favor of Proto-Welsh.
firstname.lastname@example.org is the address I mail from. Most of the stuff
mailed to andrew@ is spam.
> SH2:Score one for you! I had assumed it was a natural language.
What a compliment! Making Brithenig as natural as possible was one of my
> SH: (Alternatively it could
> mean `in Rome' if the phrase reads `what they do in Rome', but
> that seems unlikely in view of the contrast with _in Rhufein_.)
> I don't know what to make of the _-n_ in _Rhufein_; I'd expect
> some sort of open syllable.
> JC: I don't either, unless it is an error, or there is influence from
> "Rhufan" < ROMAN-
As I have already told the Brithenig list, Rhufein is derived from
*Romania rather than Roma in Brithenig as this consistant with Welsh.
> SH: _Yn_ seems to be gender-neutral--or does
> this language lack gender?
> JC: No, m/f gender is preserved, but unus/una merged due to the general
> slaughter of final vowels. The definite articles, though, are
> ill and lla in the singular, and llo in the plural.
> SH2:I would not have expected _llo_ from _illae_, _illÓ_, or _illa_.
from illos pl. ac., unless I got it wrong.
> SH: Not sure what to make of _agur_, since _e_ seems to be `and'.
from hac ora 'this hour'
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Lo! thy dread empire, Chaos! is restored;
Light dies before thy uncreating word:
Thy hand, great Anarch! lets the curtain fall;
And Universal Darkness buries All.
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