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Re: The Brzhona.
On Thu, 25 Jun 1998, Raymond A. Brown wrote:
> At 11:27 24/6/98, Frank George Valoczy wrote:
> >Well. I used Breton as the Celtic base; wheter this is Brithonic or
> >Gaulish, I don't know. I'd figure the former (Brezhoneg). I might have
> >made a rather large blunder,
> No you haven't. Breton is most definitely Brythonic/Brittonic, being
> closely related to Cornish.
> The only controversial question is why they fled SW Britain to settle in
> Armorica; it used to be claimed that they were fleeing the nasty Saxons,
> but modern scholars think the activities of Irish pirates & raiders is a
> far more like cause. There is no evidence that the Gallic language
> survived the Roman period at all.
> >> What impelled them to leave Brittany for the nascent Low Countries? You
> >> said _most_ of them left; what about those that stayed behind?
> >Having had that little taste of self-rule, they didn't particularly like
> >being ruled over by the French, who didn't really treat them all that well
> >either, so they took off to somewhere new.
> I must confess I haven't read the 'alternate history' closely, but *here*
> Britanny wasn't finally brought under centralized French control until the
> Revolutionaries closed down the Breton parliament.
Shall we say that that had happened?
> >Alright. Vowels:
> >a, e, i, o, u = like Spanish (basically, the "normal" values for these)
> >w = French "eu", German "o-umlaut"
> >y = French, Dutch "u", German "u-umlaut"
> Same range of vowels as Breton, tho spelt differently ;-) Do the Brzhona
> also have nasalized varieties like the Bretons?
No. Vowels are all clear.
> >b, d, f, g, k, l, m, n, p, s, t, z = like English
> >dl = I can't remember what it's called, but it's a "d" and an "l"
> > articulated simultaneously
> Been trying to make this sound! Is it a voiced lateral affricate?
I dunno <shrug>.
> >dhl = voiced counterpart of Welsh "ll" - ah, yes, the Zulu & Xhosa dl.
I forgot to say: In the pronunciation of some speakers, "gh" is
articulated like Dutch "g" in "gek"
Ferenc Gy. Valoczy
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