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Breathanach (was Re: Hello!)
Padraic Brown sgribhsith:
> il di le ju (aprils le 30), Jeuffroy Eddy (Geoff Eddy) yscreus:
Is this what my name in Brithenig looks like? It's a lot better than
> > John Cowan sgribhse:
> Is 'Breathanach' a) a dialect of Brithenig, b) an amazing (near)
> coincidence on how the Kernu spell Brithenig (Brethenech) or c) a very
> idiosyncratic spelling? ;-)
Most likely (a) with a hint of (c) (the medial -th- is pronounced [h]).
My Gaelic dictionary gives "Breatunnach" for "British", so it's an
attempt at the Q-Celtic equivalent of "Brithenig".
> In any event, do tell us all (or at least as much as you can) about it!
OK then, here you are... I've enclosed a file summarising my first
attempts as the Q-Celtic-style Romance I've been going on about. Most of
it is derived from Vulgar Latin; obviously, if anyone wants it to fit
into the Brithenig althistory, it would need considerably more
contamination from Brithenig than it currently has. One case in point
might be the final -o in the first person of verbs, which in the absence
of subject pronouns would probably not have been lost.
I'd welcome comments and further input on this; if necessary, some of
you with better knowledge of Brithenig could mould it into something
A couple further points: there seem to be two slightly different
dialects, "Ir" (western) and "Sc" (eastern); and this is nothing to do
with Liotan, which is an entirely separate project altogether (although
I've tried to avoid Liotan influence as much a possible).
Hoping it's interesting and/or useful!
 Anna laughed with delight <> Geoff Eddy, somewhere in
 And my future was suddenly bright <>
 So full of plans <> "The more it stays the same,
 - Pal Shazar <> less it changes" - Nigel
All consonants may be broad (velarised) or slender
(palatised). Usually a consonant became broad if followed by A O U
unlenited: P B F M; T D S N; C G; L R
lenited PH [f] BH [v] FH  MH [v~]
TH [h] DH [G] SH [h]
CH [x] GH [G]
L R N are written double when non-lenited and non-initial.
Most VL consonants remained unchanged except H (which was lost) and V
(which became F). Consonants lenited in most cases when between vowels
,although stress sometimes prevented lenition (not sure when!) Double
consonants became singular and did not lenite.
Eclipsis changed [p b f] [t d] [c g] to [b m v] [d n] [g N]
written BP MB BHF etc.
[sp st sc] were written SB SD SG in Sc.
The seven VL vowels [i e E a O o u] were retained in Ir spelt I E' E A
O O' U. [e o] became [ia ua] in Sc spelt IA UA.
Orthographic glide vowels indicated the qualities of neighbouring
[i] is spelt I IO AOI
[e E] are spelt EI EU AO
[a] is spelt A EA AI EAI
[o O] are spelt O EO OI EOI
[u] is spelt U UI IUI IU
[ia ua] are spelt IA IAI UA UAI.
Stress was initial; unstressed vowels were often schwa.
An epenthetic schwa was inserted between /l n r/ and a following
labial or velar consonant.
May be masculine or feminine.
puall "girl" fiar "man"
Nom puall fiar
Acc puall fiar
Gen puaille fiair
Dat puaille fiar
Nom puaille fiair
Acc puall fiar
Gen puall (pualra) fiar (fiarra)
Dat puaill(-iobh) fiair
The accusative was no longer used; used to eclipse in the singular.
Adjectives inflected when attributive only.
Nom parbh pharbh
Gen phairbh phairbhe
Dat pharbh pharbh
Nom phairbh pbairbh
Gen bparbh(ra) bparbh(ra)
Dat pairbh pairbh
Masculine: le + lenition; thus "le fhiar parbh"
Feminine: la + lenition; "la phuall pharbh"
Three conjugations, with stem vowel A (from Latin 1st conjugation), E
(2nd) or I (3rd and 4th).
"to sing" "to see" "to sleep"
Infinitive cantairr fiaidheirr doirmhirr
Present tense canto fiaidheo doirmheo
cantas fiaidhis doirmhis
cantath fiaidhith doirmhith
cantama fiaidheuma doirmhioma
cantaite fiaidheite doirmhite
cantann fiaidheunn doirmhionn
Imperfect cantabha fiaidheubha doirmhiobha
The rest of the tenses follow the same pattern for all verbs.
(bh) only before vowels. Maybe should be contracted
looks like it would merge with the imperfect
conditional cantairbh + imperfect endings; maybe should
contract to caintr-eabha/-eabhas etc?
present part cant-ainte/-ainn
past part cantatha
Some irregular verbs
eiseirr "to be"
aibheirr "to have"
past part: otha
maybe should have reduced forms?
sgribhirr "to write"
past part: sgriochta
trairr "to pull, drag"
past part: trachta
duichirr "to lead"
past part: duchta
faichirr "to make, do"
past part: fachta
un, dua, tria, cuatar, cuainc, seisc, seicht, ocht, noibh, deich
These are given in the form nom, acc, gen. I have no idea what to do
with the 3rd person.
1 singular: eugh, me, me + lenition
2 singular: thu, the, to + lenition
1 plural: nua, nua, noisd
2 plural: fua, fua, foisd
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